[MD] the news, or lack of it...

[squonkmuse at talktalk.net]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:28 AM, <squonkmuse at talktalk.net> wrote:

>
> Truth can be verified without appeal to social patterns; building to form a
> consensus of pragmatic values until the consensus is modified by further
> observation. It may therefore be said that truth evolves toward a state of
> higher value.

Consensus is a social pattern. Let us hope that truth is not what the
majority says it is. Let us also hope truth is not pragmatic. It too is a
social pattern. As Pirsig observed:

"James would probably have been horrified to find that Nazis could use his
pragmatism just as freely as anyone else, but Phaedrus didn't see anything
that would prevent it." (Lila, 29)

Platt

Hello Platt,
I should like to remind you that i stated truth can be verified without appeal to social patterns having previously stated what social patterns are according to the moq.
The consensus in question is therefore a consensus that can be verified in this way.

This is confirmed by Lila, 29:


The Holocaust produced

a satisfaction among Nazis. That was quality for them. They considered it

to be practical. But it was a quality dictated by low level static social

and biological patterns whose overall purpose was to retard the evolution

of truth and Dynamic Quality. James would probably have been horrified to

find that Nazis could use his pragmatism just as freely as anyone else, but

Phædrus didn't see anything that would prevent it. But he thought that the

Metaphysics of Quality's classification of static patterns of good prevents

this kind of debasement.


'...dictated by low level static social

and biological patterns whose overall purpose was to retard the evolution

of truth and Dynamic Quality.'

squonk