[MD] Birth of subjects & objects

[ian glendinning]

Thanks Ron, :-)

If I was a pedant, I might say it was a second or third-hand English
translation from Latin, via Arabic, of something Parmenides said. But
I'm not, so I won't. We would then end up debating what he meant by
nothing, each time he used whatever word(s) he used, and whatever the
context was. Without that, it's still a slogan, albeit, Parmenides
slogan.

To avoid sleepless nights I find the best answer to how something came
from nothing, is to say whatever it was always existed. (There was no
first cause, existence just is .... time and causation are weirder
than common sense suggests ... but as I say, the first-cause question
has no interesting answer, it can only be the subject of theory, as
Ham agrees, again.)

Ian

On 3/3/08, Ron Kulp <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com> wrote:
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> That slogan comes from what some here would arguably
> Posit was the first MoQist, Parmenides of Elea.
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