[MD] Zen

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

SA

> Chris:
>> So you can see I am not anti-intellectual at all. I
>> want the MOQ to work.
>> Regarding your quotes, I know them, and I like them.
>> But what am I supposed
>> to do with them? Think about them when I meditate?
>> No, not that. Have them
>> in mind when I discuss the MOQ? But I do! In my view
>> of the MOQ everything
>> is quality. Static and Dynamic.

> SA:  Ok.  I see the main hitch to you not
> understanding what I'm saying.  You regard the
> intellect as s/o only.  I regard the intellect as
> being able to intellectualize in ways that are not
> only s/o.  Anything that doesn't fall into your s/o
> intellect instantly becomes a social pattern.
> Mysticism to you is some kind of 'religion' for you
> incline towards logical positivism, my guess.

Well, mysticism, a hard defined word, but religion is quite definitely a 
social pattern in my book. Zen perhaps too, but what it's aiming at, and 
other religions too perhaps would in my MOQ understanding be Dynamic 
Quality, or a Quality awareness unbroken by static patterns. That's fine, 
and well incorporable with a SOL MOQ. I'm just saying, that when I practice 
Zen I should not think in this manner, then I will get further away from 
Zen. Am I making myself understood?


>SA:
>      This is a question, near the current topic, but
> slightly not the same.  Do you really think what
> happens on this forum is evil and as such, a lie?
> Please explain.


I don't understand why you would think this?  I love this discussions, and I 
believe that the MOQ, if properly used could bring about real Betterness.

> SA