[MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Fri Mar 7 17:21:45 PST 2008
Quoting Christoffer Ivarsson <IvarssonChristoffer at hotmail.com>:
>
>
> >> Platt:
> >> > I think the rights spawned during enlightenment and the American
> >> > revolution
> >> > were rooted in a historical moment when meta-intellect, which also
> >> > spawned
> >> > the
> >> > MOQ, burst through the darkness into the light of day. It's moment in
> >> > the
> >> > sun
> >> > was all too brief, to be smothered by the SOM scientific mind-blanket.
> >>
> >>
> >> Fact square: The ideas that the break away colonists of the USA based
> >> their
> >> nation on was of course a product of the enlightenment. More accurately
> >> the
> >> constitution is a direct implementation of Montesquieu 's "De l'esprit
> >> des
> >> lois" from 1748 - something that has in practice not been updated since.
> >> Now, the ideas of Montesquieu was indeed an expression of a time when new
> >> ideas flourished - ideas of how to govern a state was constructed with
> >> the
> >> utmost vigour and in a true spirit of experiment. On the writing table
> >> that
> >> is. Montesquieu also proposed that people should be governed differently
> >> according to the climate, and ideas of radical redistribution governments
> >> and anarchy-like government flourished and were apprised alike - it was
> >> in
> >> the spirit of experiment. On the writing table. This said - this wasn't
> >> as
> >> Platt implies a time when freedom ideas were at their peak - it was a
> >> time
> >> when ALL KINDS of (crazy) ideas were at their peak. The ideas were so
> >> unbalanced and out there because they were new, revolutionary, and the
> >> absolutistic government of the time that was the only thing anybody knew
> >> of
> >> made it possible to build all kinds of thought models - because they had
> >> never been implemented, so there was nothing to judge it against.
> >
> > You left out a few people like John Locke, Adam Smith, Edmund Burke and
> > Thomas Jefferson. As for being on the "writing table," the U.S.
> > Declaration
> > of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (referred to by
> > Pirsig)
> > were all inscribed on the writing table -- to the enduring thanks from all
> > who
> > place the highest value on liberty, even higher than life itself.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Platt
>
> What you just wrote = nothing. It isn't an answer, and it isn't an analysis.
> it is repeating indoctrination. Perhaps that's your only intent.
It isn't an answer. What was the question? It isn't an analysis. What's to
analyze?
> A is B. And B is Blue.
>
> congratz Platt. you win the interwebz
What's that mean?
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