[MD] The Beginning of it All

[Dwaipayan Lahiri]

>
> [Krimel]
> It is correct that that The Way is neither good not bad but that  
> virtue is
> found in harmony and balance. Nothing is always this or always  
> that. It is
> though clinging to definition that folly arises.

Indeed! Well said...

>
> My comments were directed at your statement:
>
> "Indeed, what the Taoist believes is that whatever
> is, is the Tao, so it cannot possibly be undesirable.
> Even the most seemingly ghastly thing is that way.
> Good and Bad are simply values we assign to things..."
>
> I took to double negative to mean that the Tao IS desirable. In  
> Buddhism
> desire is to be avoided as it is root of suffering.
>

The Tao is desirable to those who see...to others the seekers are  
mere fools (Lao Tzu used to call himself a fool who doesn't know  
anything about anything).


> [Dwai to Ham]
> Indeed, Tao, Brahman is beyond all qualification. It simply is.
>
> [Krimel]
> While Taoism was used by Zen Buddhists as a kind of metaphysical
> underpinning it has no connection whatever to Hinduism.

Hmm...and you have deduced this how? How well do you know or  
understand the Dharmic traditions?

>
> You seem to be churning all this eastern philosophy through a mystical
> blender grinding out Sutra Smoothies.
>

Hmm...are they really? Or do they seem that way to your conditioned  
sensibilities?
I practice Sanatana Dharma (you call it Hinduism). Sanatana Dharma  
translates as the Eternal Way.
The concepts within it's philosophical systems are similar (nay  
almost identical) to Tao. Since when does the truth have to be  
restricted to categorization (usually bean-counters love this  
process...x belongs to y category, w belongs to z and never the twain  
shall meet). What rules are there when it comes to something that is  
obviously beyond the realm of Duality? You don't like the smoothies?  
Fine...go drink some of your favorite brand of koolaid.


> Hinduism strikes me as plagued with a host of gods and demigods;  
> principles
> personified. Frankly when it comes to personified principles,  
> Yahweh tops my
> list. Here is a God who says flat out, "My ways are not your ways  
> and my
> thoughts are not your thoughts".

Your knowledge of Hinduism seems to be very limited. If Yahweh works  
for you, all power to my brother! Different levels of awareness can  
handle different kinds of "Divinity".

>
> He says, "I create good and evil"

Yahweh is a "Human God", so he plays on/with the psychoses of Human  
beings.

>
> He fucks with us for reasons of his own and says we are impertinent  
> to ask,
> "Why?"

The Tao of Yahweh is very static and manufactured to enforce social  
(static quality) rules.

>
> He builds his house in heaven because if he built it on earth his  
> neighbors
> would break his windows.

:D
Which Heaven is that? Where is the path that leads there? Is there  
room for those who don't like Yahweh there? Is his Heaven even worth  
living in?