[MD] Zen

[Krimel]

[Arlo]
As always, Platt's trying to wage a dichotomous war where the only 
options are to wag your dick about the Lone Individual or be a 
sniveling, commie bastard. But then, comrade Krimel, we've been down 
that road umpteen times as well.

[Krimel]
I prefer Komrade Krimel or Comrade 1 Crime l but yeah. I apologize for
occasionally skimming or ignoring your posts but so often its like some
recurring bad dream about teaching a pig to talk. Just know that I share
your frustration and admire your persistence.

[Arlo]
Yes, I think Tomasello's use of latching provides another nice 
parallel with Pirsig in pointing not just to the B/S 
point-of-evolution, but in pointing to the Dynamic-Static process 
that is the ongoing process of evolution.  BTW, Pirsigians who follow 
Pirsig's idea that the social and intellectual levels are reserved 
for humans will also find parallel in Tomasello who ascribes symbolic 
use solely to humans (on this basis of said neurobiological adpation).

[Krimel]
I would like Tomasello to be a bit more specific about the adaptation itself
at least in terms of physiology but, you are right. The ability to see
things through the eyes of another or to adopt a different point of view,
allows us to see others as subjects and ourselves as objects. That probably
sounds a bit more in tune with Bo than I am comfortable with but there you
have it.