[MD] Zen

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Quoting Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>:

> [Platt]
> Thanks for backing up Pirsig (and me): "A tribe can change its values only
> person by person and someone has to be first." X is first, then Y, Z, P, Q 
> and X+n -- each individual person by person. But without the primacy of 
> inventor X, the rest could never follow.
> 
> [Krimel]
> But without 'n' X goes unnoticed. Are you just not paying attention here?
> Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that individuals are important but
> in the context of the group? What meaning does 'first' have outside of its
> social context?  

First has no meaning without a second, third, fourth, etc., just as one
has no meaning without many. Those are givens. What seems hard for you to
acknowledge is individuals we're talking about are human beings, not ants. 


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