[MD] Zen

[Ron Kulp]

>> Chris:

This definition of the intellectual level as " symbol manipulation"
makes it 
possible to strech it out forever. It becomes pointless.

Ron:
Exactly why SOM may not be THE intellectual level in any way other than
a culturally relevant way. Once you define the intellectual level
relevant to 
Social structure, one may then begin to define it. The rules for our
cultures use of logic and reason were invented by the ancient
Greeks, so by matter of relevance and convenience, it is reasonable
To assume the origins of intellect were created by them in order
To understand social/intellectual situations as they apply to our
everyday world in the west. This is why Bo's SOL is a good concept if it
is
Recognized as doing as such. 


I'd hate to see his ideas be ignored on the grounds of the
Inability to make this vital distinction. 



If we come together on this, it will enable us to define Quality
Without Killing it.