[MD] Dawkins quotes RMP on religion.

[Platt Holden]

> > > Platt:
> > > > DQ is a moral force, NOT mathematical variables
> > and operations.
> 
> 
> > > SA previously:  "Mathematical variables and
> operations" are
> > > moral.  The moq states all is moral.
> 
> 
> Platt: 
> > Show me where the MOQ says DQ = mathematical
> > variables and operations.  I'm all ears. 
> 
>
> SA:  Are you heart and nose too?
>        Anyways...  I'll try to read your mind.  Let me
> know how I do.  You state dq is a moral force.

Correction: Pirsig states DQ is a moral force. I agree.

> Isn't
> quality moral?  Isn't quality reality?  Isn't quality
> substituted by moral and value to mean the same?

Yes, yes, and yes. 

> And
> then, now follow this line of thinking, you know it
> very well, moral is reality.

Yes. Only I would say, "Morality is reality." 

> Is mathematical
> variables and operations not of this reality?

They are static intellectual patterns of morality, yes. 

> If not,
> then what are they?  How could I even speak them?

Of them, you can speak since they are static patterns. .

But, please follow me on this:

Of some things you cannot speak, as Whitehead said, " . . . dim 
apprehensions of things too obscure for its existing language."

Pirsig says that describes DQ.

Ergo, DQ does not equal mathematical variables and operators.   

>  A
> pink horse is part of this reality as an imagined
> moral.

It may be moral, but very low on the scale of morality if you claim
pink horses as imagined are as real as mathematical variables and 
operators.   

Always a pleasure to converse with you SA.

Blue skies, 
Platt