[MD] Dawkins quotes RMP on religion.

[Krimel]

> [Krimel]
> But here are two illustrations of my point: Easter Island and Haiti. Both
> islands were deforested as a result of the need for cooking fuel. The 
> human populations in both places have never recovered. Some suggest they 
> could foreshadow the fate of the planet but of course you will have none 
> of that.

[Platt]
What's your point?

[Krimel]
These are example of social systems destroying biological systems and dying
as a result. Which according to your statements about Pirsig's moral order
are perfectly moral.

[Platt]
Does Bright mean above average intelligence or something like that?

[Krimel]
http://www.the-brights.net/

> [Krimel]
> What would you say pre-intellectual means?

[Platt]
What you know before you know anything else. What do you think it means? 

[Krimel]
So are you saying it is what you know before you know it? Could you please
elaborate?

I think it mean sensation and a host of non-conscious processes from immune
response to emotion.