[MD] Dawkins quotes RMP on religion.
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Tue Mar 18 14:07:48 PDT 2008
Quoting Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>:
> [Krimel]
> > Asking how a purposeless universe can evolve purposeful creatures is no
> > different than asking how an entityless universe can evolve entities. We
> > don't need to ask how it 'could' when we can look to the evidence and see
> > how it did. Entities that have the ability to access memory and use it as
> > a guide to the future are more likely to pass along their genes.
>
> [Platt]
> So I take it your answer to how can a purposeless universe evolve
> purposeful creatures and how can an entityless universe evolve entities is
> "Don't ask."
>
> [Krimel]
> Not at all that is what biologists are doing. They are asking. If you were
> seriously interested you would be asking them and paying attention to their
> answers.
Have they found any answers yet? You seem to suggest they haven't.
>
> [Platt]
> Also, I know of no evidence that answers the question of how "did" a
> purposeless universe evolve entities with a purpose to pass along their
> genes. So far as I know the beginning of life (the first life form) on
> earth is still a mystery to science with some theorizing it came from
> space. Have I missed a discovery?
>
> [Krimel]
> The evidence takes the form of the fossil record and the spectrum of
> creatures that share our planet. Evolution is the bedrock of biology, I
> would suggest E.O Wilson or Stephen Gould but Dawkins' early work in the
> Selfish Gene and Blind Watchmaker would be instructive as well. Regardless I
> would insist that anyone who does not understand evolutionary theory in
> today's world can not truly claim to be educated.
The question was how did the first life form become a life form. Does evolutionary
theory explain the beginning of life?
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