[MD] Dawkins quotes RMP on religion.
Arlo Bensinger
ajb102 at psu.edu
Thu Mar 20 11:01:55 PDT 2008
[Ian]
people are thinking very very hard to "conceive" of any conceivable
thing we might call life existing.
[Arlo]
yes, many have suggested that the evidence of extraterrestial life is
there, we just don't see it as such because we have a narrow
preconceived notion of what it should look like. to paraphrase
pirsig, "e.t. comes knocking on the door and you say 'go away, i'm
looking for e.t.', and so e.t. goes away. puzzling." one sci-fi book
i read once (forget the title at the moment) had the earth "buffered"
by extraterrestials to prevent the earth from contacting/finding
other life forms until it matured enough to make such contact
beneficial. sort of like the prime directive of star trek combined
with a dampening field to prevent the interception of extraterrestial
transmissions. so maybe our "aloneness" is because we are bugs in a
jar. god knows, look around, do YOU think humanity is ready for
contact with another world?
so my jury is (as always) out on the final verdict as well.
[Ian]
That's not what I'm saying - some
anthropically-convenient-creationists are maybe. It's not about me,
my ancestors or even humans .... that is just "happenstance" .... its
about an existing living thing of any kind
[Arlo]
And, as I've said, the only evidence we have of life existing outside
Earth is contested evidence of microbes on asteroids. Until we find
some evidence, ANY evidence, it is unavoidably presumptuous to claim
that the cosmos "is perfectly balanced to support life". What we have
by evidence is a vast cosmos entirely devoid of life except for on
one small planet in one small arm of an otherwise unremarkable
galaxy. And that to me suggests just the opposite, that the cosmos is
NOT balanced to support life, but that in very, very rare occurrences
it may happen despite the otherwise indifference of the greater cosmos.
I'll go out on a limb and say that the next big "Copernican
revolution" will involve the discovery that we are not alone in the
universe. And maybe this will be something like E.T or maybe
something like ID4. Maybe we will find out we share consciousness
with other evolved beings, or maybe we will find out that to these
other beings we are no better than ants are to us. Either way, next
big revolution.
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