[MD] A World of Objects

[Magnus Berg]

Hi Ian

ian:
> Chris,
> I would say
> 
> Ideas and thoughts exist as ...
> 
> Patterns that emerge in, or can be represented in, patterns in
> physio-electro-chemical activities in a "brain".
> 
> Where,
> 
> Physio-electro-chemical activities are patterns in the physical
> substrate of a "brain",
> 
> And a "brain" is
> 
> Either (biological) patterns in the emergent biological patterns that
> arise in the physical substrate.
> 
> Or (physical machine / tablet of stone) patterns in patterns in
> patterns .... in patterns in the physical substrate.

The problem with this or-clause is that it translates badly to the four 
levels. Why would ideas and thoughts create this extra-level as a 
sibling to the biological?

Isn't your reaction that you must merge these two different levels into one?

	Magnus