[MD] Sickness and Death

[MarshaV]

At 05:49 AM 5/5/2008, you wrote:
>>[Chris]
>>And now I'm reading about the development of psychiatric care in Europe
>>and Sweden. To put it bluntly, it's really fucked up stuff. And I'm
>>not referring to the treatment of the patients as such, but rather
>>the foundation that psychiatric is based on. I mean, they are trying
>>to cure the mind by looking at the body. Mind-Matter, Mind-Matter,
>>for thousands of years they have kept at it, and not gotten one step closer.
>>When will they understand?
>>I keep having to go out for air when I read about it. Also I suspect the
>>professor in charge of this particular class will find my paper on it
>>somewhat. bitter. So be it.
>>
>>Sickness and Death of the mind. Pff. I need a cigarette.
>>
>>[Krimel]
>>I don't know much about the situation in Europe but I do know that in the US
>>treating mental illness as a disease has proven far more effective than
>>anything else ever attempted in this area. The advent of psychiatric
>>medications in the middle of the 20th century began to reduce the population
>>of mental patients in mental institutions dramatically. The newer
>>generations of these medications target problems much more effectively and
>>hospitalizations have continued to decline. For other forms of mental
>>problems, particularly epilepsy and other seizure disorder the surgeries
>>performed are radical and terrifying but they also save lives.
>>
>>Certainly there have been many unfortunate problems and solutions that were
>>worse than the problems they sought to solve. But there is every reason to
>>regard mental illness as rooted in physical causes in a great many cases and
>>it is simply not true that progress in the treatment of these diseases has
>>not been made. In fact the opposite is true.
>
>Far be I from denying the benefits of medical science. That is not 
>what this is about though. I'm just pointing out that for example:
>
>DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) now 
>consist of some 950 pages, and virtually every part of human 
>behaviour can be diagnosed as some sort of mental disorder.
>
>What is these diagnoses based on? Nothing. Air. At least that is the 
>case with some 90% of them, and this has been the way psychiatry has 
>worked since- forever. A diagnosis is made from observing a 
>behaviour in a human, then comes the conclusion that this must be 
>due to some dysfunction in the body (or the mind if we go over to psychology).
>
>And then everything is a illness all of a sudden. Not reflecting 
>over the fact that "illness" is a human invention and exists nowhere 
>else but in human thinking, materialistic psychiatry goes on to see 
>everything as functions (even thought they cannot prove it, it must 
>be so!) and the list of what is a mental disorder grows ever longer.
>
>With a MOQ view we would identify it as diagnoses based on social 
>level Values.  And the major problem is that psychiatry is working 
>on the very mind/matter split that everybody takes for granted - and 
>not surprisingly things get a little dysfunctional in psychiatry 
>itself (what ARE they actually handling?)
>
>Regards
>

Greetings,

I'm with you, Chris.  Much (not all) of what is called 
medical/medicine is a Capitalistic hoax, and the media is fully 
participating in perpetrating that hoax.  I'll trust the medical 
establishment when it's primary function is prevention and healing 
rather than PROFIT.

Marsha







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