[MD] Science and the MOQ

[David M]

> [Krimel]
> I think your argument here is based on an incorrect understanding of the
> term anthropomorphic. It means ascribing human qualities to nonhuman 
> things.
> It has nothing to do with the fact that all human understanding is human.

DM: How do you find/discover/create these non-human qualities?
Do we not find all qualities in our experience and our experience
is surely all human? Perhaps you can explain how your non-anthoropocentric
qualities escape this and how you acquired them?

> DM:
> See, you can't escape my point. We are very concerned about
> possibilities, which ones are remote, which ones are close to
> becoming actual. We have to see our freedom and our future in
> the context of all imaginable possibilities, we have to grade them,
> their desirability, their ability to be realised, their near
> impossibility, it is the context of everything we think and do.
>
> [Krimel]
> Ok, and the amount of time we dwell on them is a matter of the grade we 
> give
> to them. I believe that's about what I've said.

DM: Glad to get you doing some gradings in the real sphere of the possible.


>
> DM: It's a way of looking at things. We should consider it, what it might
> offer and mean,even if it is not our everyday normal way of thinking.
> Only when we see that all our assumptions are choices we've made do we
> become truly reflective and conscious.
>
> [Krimel]
> I have considered it. I have considered where this kind of thinking comes
> from and where it leads to. I have no use for it. But I agree that it is
> important to be aware of and to questions our own assumptions.

DM: Good, keep on your toes. Tomorrow things may, nay will, change.
>
> [Krimel]
> Most universities in this country offer degrees in religion and theology. 
> It
> is difficult for me to imagine a university that does not offer up a 
> variety
> of opinions.

DM: All institutions set limits on what is permissable and acceptable, these
limits should always be under question. Religious folk find philosophy in 
the UK
an almost impossible option and suffer considerable hostility I am told.

>
> DM One what?
>
> [Krimel]
> It is from the Highlander movie and TV show. In this instance it means 
> that
> when religion and mythology butt heads with science they lose. They are 
> hard
> headed and it might take a while but they adapt, change or lose.

DM: That's a lovely myth you are holding there! Their historic relationship 
is
much more complex. But we always have to simplify to narrate and myth make.