[MD] Correctness and Usefulness
Ham Priday
hampday1 at verizon.net
Tue May 6 18:16:19 PDT 2008
Hi Platt --
[Ham quoted Pirsig's statement in LILA]:
> "Morals have no objective reality. You can look through a microscope or
> telescope or oscilloscope for the rest of your life and you will never
> find
> a single moral. There aren't any there. They are all in your head."
[Platt]:
> Check the context, Ham. Pirsig makes it clear that this
> is the perspective of subject-object science. It is NOT
> the perspective of the MOQ..
Okay, I'll admit that I picked up this quotation from another source. On
checking my copy of LILA, he does say that the subject-object approach of
science is only concerned with facts and gives morals no reality.
Nevertheless, whether it is the MoQ perspective or not, Pirsig has stated
"They [i.e., morals] are all in your head". And it was that statement which
I was elaborating upon.
[Platt]:
> Do you and Edington find the Holocaust immoral? If so,
> on what basis is your "value-sensibility" superior to Hitler's?
That's a "mean" retort, Platt. Of course we find the Holocaust immoral.
Like all tyrants, Power was the ultimate objective of Nazi fascism, and this
end had greater value to Hitler than his means of achieving it.
Exploitation of the masses and elimination of "inferior" races may have
served his perverted cause, just as martyrdom and the senseless bombing of
innocent people serves the cause of Islamic extremists.
Morality isn't even an issue when we allow power to become an obsession.
The quest for power not only corrupts one's ability to reason, it replaces
all other values in the process. In the Authentic Society I envision for
mankind, such atrocities will be unthinkable. When we understand that life
affords us the opportunity to realize the value of our essential source, and
that we are all agents of this source, morality will be viewed as rational,
self-directed value.
(I'll be the first to admit that we have a long way to go.)
Essentially yours,
Ham
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