[MD] Patterns
MarshaV
marshalz at charter.net
Sun May 11 02:58:53 PDT 2008
At 03:30 AM 5/11/2008, you wrote:
>Marsha, Magnus, and All --
>
>
>Marsha asked:
> > What is a pattern?
>
>Magnus answered:
> > Anything not DQ.
> > But the only thing these two answers really say is that
> > reality is divided into patterns and non-patterns.
> > What the MoQ has to add to this is that it is the most
> > important division of all possible divisions.
>
>[Marsha]:
> > What can you say about patterns besides 'they are
> > other than DQ'?
>
>Not much. That's because patterns are said to be "made of" that ephemeral
>stuff called "Quality". Pure Quality is not a thing, not an object, not a
>subject, but an attribute. An attribute OF WHAT? Normally we would think
>of quality as an attribute of a thing or event -- a measure of its
>worth or of its
>esthetic value relative to the observer. But not in the MoQ. There, DQ
>hangs above us like a cornucopia of bonbons, the unrealized source of
>eternal goodness. Can this be Reality?
>
>But, if Magnus is right that the division of reality into patterns
>is "the most important
>division of all possible divisions," then it must be fundamental to
>what we experience as reality. It must be a division of something
>intrinsic to both the observing subject and its objective object, a
>transcendent reality that holds the power to actualize
>existence. Marsha's question above provides a three-word key to the
>nature of this reality: "OTHER THAN DQ". In reality there is no
>other; otherness is only what we experience. What we experience is
>only a finite moment-to-moment reduction of the ultimate
>reality. So that what Pirsig has given us is a Quality-based
>scenario for experiential existence, not a metaphysical theory of Reality.
>
>Forget about patterns for a moment. Whatever the fundamental
>reality is, it cannot be "other than" ANYTHING. Back in the 15th
>century the logician Cusanus
>postulated his First Principle as the 'not-other', that ineffable
>unity "to which
>neither otherness nor multiplicity is opposed". That uncreated
>unity, which is manifested only as patterns of beingness, is the
>essential source of all difference. What Magnus calls the
>fundamental "division" and Bo refers to as the "DQ/SQ split" is what
>I "the negation of Essence".
>
>But, as I've often said, it isn't the terms we use but the concept
>we're trying to convey that's important. So, if you understand
>Pirsig's term "Quality" to mean the primary uncreated not-other,
>then you can understand what I mean by Essence. It's the primary
>source that actualizes 'difference' by splitting or dividing
>subjective awareness from objective otherness. Difference creates
>the dichotomy 'being-aware' which makes experience possible. It is
>the Value of Essence (Quality?) that we experientially "pattern" as
>differentiated otherness. But although we call these relational
>patterns Existence, and experience them as our self's 'other', in
>Reality there is no other, no pattern, no division, no difference,
>but only the ineffable unity by whatever name you choose to call it.
>
>Does this give you a better understanding of the Essential ontology
>and how it differs from the MoQ?
>
>Happy Mother's Day,
>Ham
Greetings Ham,
I am hovering between my fledgling understanding of Buddhist
epistemology and the MOQ. I want to drift with the winds aloft for a
while. But there has always been in your 'not other' something
calling for attention. I find it also in
'opposite-from-non-( )'. Yesterday morning it was
'opposite-from-non-life'. There was little room for doubt. Even
though I find the Eastern philosophies more compatible with my
thinking, I am looking forward to returning to your book. There is a
relationship between the two. Maybe. Well, I am curious.
Thank you for the Mother's Day greeting.
Marsha
Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars...
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