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[Joseph Maurer]

On Sunday 11 May 2008 2:35 AM Bo writes to Joe:

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> DQ is undefined and SQ is defined reality.
 
Yes, that's just it and I would have stopped there.
 
> Put that statement into history.  DQ in metaphysics is the Conscious
> only experience of an individual.

[Bo] 
When you equalize DQ with "Conscious Only" Consciousness is
reality's ground and a Metaphysics of Consciousness emerges. Still
I'm not totally against it, to me it's the Dynamic/Static distinction that
counts as different from the Subject/Object one.
 
> It differs from the subjective
> experience of SOM, which proposes an abstracted essence given
> intentional existence in a mind.
 
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Hi Bo and all,

[Joe]
In the history of thought a theory of knowledge precedes metaphysics.  Plato
proposed a world of ideas as the source of knowledge.  Aristotle proposed
abstraction as the way we know things.  Revelation!  Myths! Stories! Heroes!

[Joe]
As a science psychology is mechanistic, and there is no sense of a
difference in how we know things, other than typing on the keys of my
computer, and how big my computer is! Mystics, however, are in a different
category.

[Joe]
How can I communicate the undefined?  What key shall I press?  I accept
Pirsig¹s insight that there is a part of my reality that is undefined. But
how can I talk about it using defined words?  ³Consciousness is realities
ground², if we are going to communicate with each other.  Consciousness is
defined and undefined!  ³Culture hands us a set of glasses!² The debate is
whether I know and can talk about the undefined.  Metaphor, analogy, and
gesture are ways of talking‹communicating the undefined. Experience is not
undefined. I know what I am talking about? Yeah! Well you are wrong, and I
have a bigger gun that says so.  So much for epistemology these days!

[Joe]  
Abstraction is the theory of knowledge proposed by Aristotle, which was
accepted as the explanation for how we know reality, SOM.

 

Joe



On 5/11/08 2:35 AM, "skutvik at online.no" <skutvik at online.no> wrote:

> DQ is undefined and SQ is defined reality.
> 
> Yes, that's just it and I would have stopped there.
> 
>> Put that statement into history.  DQ in metaphysics is the Conscious
>> only experience of an individual.
> 
> When you equalize DQ with "Conscious Only" Consciousness is
> reality's ground and a Metaphysics of Consciousness emerges. Still
> I'm not totally against it, to me it's the Dynamic/Static distinction that
> counts as different from the Subject/Object one.
> 
>> It differs from the subjective
>> experience of SOM, which proposes an abstracted essence given
>> intentional existence in a mind.