[MD] Patterns
Joseph Maurer
jhmau at sbcglobal.net
Mon May 12 11:47:01 PDT 2008
On Monday 12 May 2008 9:25 AM Ron writes to all:
Greetings All!
[Ron]
Been thinking about patterns. I have two questions for you:
[Ron]
1. Do you know of anything, either conceptual or physical, that is
not a pattern?
[Ron]
2. What is a pattern?
[Ron]:
If you do not mind my answering you inquiry, I will attempt to follow
Pirsigs logic.
[Ron]
Patterns are experience. Patterns are Quality.
[Ron]
Experience is expressed intellectually per MoQ,
As static experience or "SQ" and dynamic experience
Or "DQ".
[Ron]
By understanding that this split is intellectual MoQ
Solves the Mind/Matter paradox it does not exist
In experience, it only exists intellectually.
[Ron]
By placing empirical certainty on pre-intellectual
Experience, MoQ is more certain than objectivism
Which places certainty in intellectualism.
[Ron]
By using DQ/SQ in lieu of S/O we are able to
View reality as a whole in motion rather than
A static solid state universe of objects in
Space. (Hams negation and Bo's folly).
Hi Ron and All,
[Joe]
What is evolution? Pirsig¹s logic accepts evolution! Does the inorganic by
not knowing what evolution is not evolve? Is DQ another name for evolution?
SOM divides existence into two aspects, objective existence outside a mind,
and intentional existence which the mind creates for the abstracted essence
in order to know a thing. There is a lot of evidence that intentional
existence, subjectivity, is bogus. We have a direct experience of
evolution, a law of order in existence. DQ is undefined. Evolution to the
social level is a movement to consciousness, a self-aware being. A level of
order though undefined is apprehended in undefined consciousness. The
intellectual level evolves when two are in relationship, e.g., man/woman a
level of law. Further evolution of consciousness only seems to have
occurred historically, enlightenment, heroes! etc. MOQ meta-level?
Joe
On 5/12/08 9:25 AM, "Ron Kulp" <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com> wrote:
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>
> Greetings All!
>
> Been thinking about patterns. I have two questions for you:
>
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> 1. Do you know of anything, either conceptual or physical, that is
> not a pattern?
>
> 2. What is a pattern?
>
>
> Ron:
> If you do not mind my answering you inquiry, I will attempt to follow
> Pirsigs logic.
>
> Patterns are experience. Patterns are Quality.
>
> Experience is expressed intellectually per MoQ,
> As static experience or "SQ" and dynamic experience
> Or "DQ".
>
> By understanding that this split is intellectual MoQ
> Solves the Mind/Matter paradox it does not exist
> In experience, it only exists intellectually.
>
> By placing empirical certainty on pre-intellectual
> Experience, MoQ is more certain than objectivism
> Which places certainty in intellectualism.
>
> By using DQ/SQ in lieu of S/O we are able to
> View reality as a whole in motion rather than
> A static solid state universe of objects in
> Space. (Hams negation and Bo's folly).
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> *********
> The universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is only
> the reflection of all the others in a fantastic interrelated harmony
> without end.
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