[MD] chasing ghosts

[MarshaV]

At 03:15 PM 5/12/2008, you wrote:


>SA previously:
> > >     Takes preconceptions and old tea-swishin' to
> > chase ghosts.  It's also called assuming without
> > dialogue.
>
>
>Marsha:
> > I seem to be in a 'denser than a door nail' mode.
> > I'm not sure what you're getting at.
>
>
>SA:  No... please ask, I've only recently stumbled
>upon this 'chasing ghosts' experience.  It started
>with Platt.  He kept sending me posts with quotes of
>Pirsig, from Lila I believe, and I had said I agreed
>with his post, but he kept sending me more and more.
>He was arguing against me still, but yet I had already
>agreed with him.  No matter what I sent back in
>response he would send another.  He was sending posts
>to me in his own world (and that's key to chasing
>ghosts).  No matter how I responded in agreement and
>then wonderment as to why he was continually sending
>me more posts trying to argue his position - he was
>arguing not against me anymore - then WHO?  A ghost I
>would say.  Then long after Platt noticed I agreed
>with him way back in his first post on the topic, here
>comes Bo lagging behind and responding to Platt with
>an off-the-wall answer that had nothing to do with the
>discussion between Platt and I - for Platt and I had
>agreed from the beginning, so, with Bo's response that
>went on about something that had nothing to do with
>Platt's and mine discussion, then Bo was arguing
>against - WHO?  A ghost I would say.
>      These ghosts we all chase from time to time are
>premeditated, preconceptual, sometimes these ghosts we
>lash out against are hidden behind our words, we're
>mad about something else that has nothing to do with
>the current topic so we find a way to fit in our
>off-topic disgust and it comes across very skewd.
>       At work, which is probably were I picked up the
>phrase 'chasing ghosts' for it comes up every once in
>awhile, and this concept at work fits in very well
>here.  When we're trying to find an item in the store,
>sometimes a shelf that is supposed to have product on
>it somewhere in the store, a clue comes through the
>system.  Whether it's from our item counts in what we
>are supposed to have in the store or an update in
>revising a shelf, but then when we go looking for the
>shelf or item this memo or note coming from a computer
>system is the only clue we have.  Everything else we
>are checking is a dead end, and nothing in the store
>is showing that this shelf or item even exists.
>Eventually what will happen, which I had to do the
>other day, is to search out various places in the
>store that the item and shelf could be.  Upon my
>second optional location I found what area it might be
>in, but then upon asking the person that works in that
>area they let me know that the shelf and items never
>were set-up in the store in the first place so
>revising them couldn't happen.
>      Well, to make a long story short, about half-way
>through this process of searching for the shelf and
>items somebody said to me, "Then again you might be
>chasing a ghost.  For that happens from time to time
>in this store."  Sure enough I was chasing a ghost.  I
>was chasing something that all this information that I
>was relying upon to build this picture was
>preconceptual and full of assumptions based on past
>experiences (due to little information would lead to
>these shelves and items being in the store, they just
>fell off the grid for some reason items will be in the
>store for so long that they fall off the grid, the
>system thinks they are not there anymore, but they
>are), but this time the shelf and item was not there -
>I spent about a half-hour talking about something and
>looking for something (doing all this planning and
>stuff) for something that wasn't even here - wasn't
>even happening.
>     That's what I find Bo and Platt did.  They
>searched and said some things about something that
>wasn't even happening.  They were chasing ghosts.
>      Sometimes chasing ghosts, not to point out Bo and
>Platt only, can be when somebody thinks your in a bad
>mood and you know your not - what ghost are they
>chasing?
>      Also, when people are talking past each other,
>this is another example of chasing ghosts.  When you
>think I'm saying this, but really I'm not, yet, I am
>saying that, but somebody insists you are saying this,
>that's chasing a ghost, too.  Ham does this often.  He
>can't think outside his little safety net so he sees
>ghosts a lot, and says people are saying this and that
>when they really aren't.
>
>
>the netherworld,
>SA
>


Greetings SA,

Ghosts are cool.  We all have them.  It's okay if one realizes 
they're just ghosts.  I think they come from the land of a thousand 
dances.  There's sometimes trouble when one thinks they're too 
real.  But mistaken identity occasionally happens to everybody.

Marsha










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