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MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Tue May 13 00:43:53 PDT 2008


>Quoting Christoffer Ivarsson <IvarssonChristoffer at hotmail.com>:
>
> > This about Chance, Dynamic Quality and the MOQ in general:
> >
> > The way I see it there is no such thing as chance. Only causation that we
> > cannot see because of lack of information.
>
>Platt:
>I agree with you, Chris.

Me too.  In fact, I'm even suspicious of the word causation.


> >Chris:
> > Dynamic Quality does not mean
> > randomness or chaos. Dynamic Quality is not some external force that comes
> > in and effects the patterns like some God. Rather Dynamic Quality is
> > everywhere and in every "thing". It is the motivational force that keeps
> > everything running, since everything strives for higher Quality, 
> the higher
> > Quality perceived as Dynamic Quality and then transformed into static
> > Quality.
>
>Platt:
>Yes, DQ is a "motivational force" moving things toward betterness (evolution).

It is better to exist, than not.  ?   But isn't jumping off the wheel 
of existence exactly what Buddhism is trying to achieve?


>Chris:
> > Chance or chaos is only very complex patterns that we do not have
> > enough information to observe in a good way, but with the presence of
> > Dynamic Quality that tells us that development is Good we learn more and
> > more - and more and more things that were seen as chance or chaos is now
> > explainable. When something happens as a result of causation - in the MOQ
> > called valuing or something fitting in the MOQ, but still just 
> another word
> > for causation - then DQ is always there to motivate it and provide that
> > Quality perception that can then be transformed into Static Quality. The
> > movement of Evolution is a movement towards the perception of 
> pure Quality,
> > and so Dynamic Quality is really this,  GLIMPSES OF QUALITY that 
> we because
> > we are no archangel observers and haven't reached that level of evolution
> > yet, can only get glimpses of and then transform it into Static Patterns -
> > evolution.
> >
> > So my Dear friends, whom among you wants to be the first to paint me as a
> > heretic? =)
>
>Platt:
>If they paint you a heretic, they must paint me one, too. But, I'm 
>used to it. :-)

Hmmm, I just want to paint a heretic.


Marsha




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