[MD] First split

craigerb at comcast.net craigerb at comcast.net
Thu May 15 10:01:05 PDT 2008


[Pirsig]
"In the Metaphysics of Quality 'causation' is a meta­physical term that can be 
replaced by 'value.' To say that 'A causes B' or to say that 'B values 
precondition A' is to say the same thing. The difference is one of words only. 
Instead of saying 'A magnet causes iron filings to move toward it,' you can say 
'Iron filings value movement toward a magnet.'"

[Craig, previously]
> To me, the PRE-condition is the iron  filings lying inert.
> The POST-condition (= result) is the iron filings moving
> toward the magnet.   So 'A causes B' is to say that 'B values the 
> POST-condition which results from A'.

[Magnus]
> If we say "B values the POST-condition which results from A", then
> the quality event...has to be performed before B can value the result or not.

This is helpful, pointing out that the result must be valued BEFORE it will
occur.  But still it is the POST-condition (= the effect = the iron filings moving
toward the magnet) that is valued, not the PRE-condition (= the iron  filings
lying inert).
So we have: 'A causes B' is to say 'B is the effect of A' is to say 'B is the valued
POST-condition which results from A (so it occurs)'.
Craig



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