[MD] First split

Magnus Berg McMagnus at home.se
Fri May 16 04:00:19 PDT 2008


Hi again

> [Magnus]
>> If we say "B values the POST-condition which results from A", then
>> the quality event...has to be performed before B can value the result or not.

Craig
  > This is helpful, pointing out that the result must be valued BEFORE it will
> occur.  But still it is the POST-condition (= the effect = the iron filings moving
> toward the magnet) that is valued, not the PRE-condition (= the iron  filings
> lying inert).
> So we have: 'A causes B' is to say 'B is the effect of A' is to say 'B is the valued
> POST-condition which results from A (so it occurs)'.

One more thing, if we take a similar event in a higher level, such as the 
biological, we can get something like:

A cell values the taste of a protein, and eats it.

I think we should view these different types of events in a very analog manner. 
When a cell values the taste of a protein, we see the eating part as a separate 
event, which is a semi-direct consequence of the first evaluation event.

On the other hand, we don't really see the "so it occurs"-part of an inorganic 
event as a separate event, but perhaps we should? The iron filings value 
movement toward the magnet, therefore it moves towards it.

Another thing, since the quality event is supposed to be at the absolute core of 
our reality, it itself is the source of causality and even time, so I'm not even 
sure it is possible/desirable to involve words like "cause" and "result" when 
talking about the quality event since they presume some kind of linear time.

	Magnus







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