[MD] Chance

[craigerb at comcast.net]

[Krimel]
> When you and your friend agree to meet you are sharing a purpose. But as you
> say "a lot of things can intervene." That is chance. Everything that happens
> between your agreement to met and the time of the meeting will be purely
> deterministic.

Which is it:  chance or deterministic?  What if I had scheduled another meeting in
conflict with the first? 

[Krimmel]
> You win a zillion dollars and forget your friends.

If I won a zillion dollars, I wouldn't forget my friends.  (They wouldn't let me.)

[Krimmel]
> Given any set of unique conditions there are many possible results. A unique
> result will occur...

Aren't these 2 statements incompatible?

[Krimmel]
> What chance gives us is causation and determinism with limited predictability.

What accounts for the limited predictability:  the many possible results or our
ignorance of the unique result?

[Krimmel]
> IMHO this is why I identify chance with DQ. It is why I think Pirsig was pointing at a
> moon he did not see clearly enough.

But mightn't this be where you & Pirsig are in agreement?
Craig