[MD] First split

[David M]

Hi Magnus

Good points below. How does an atom experience
gaining another electron in its shell? Who knows.
Can electrical changes have consciousness?
They seem to in brains, made of atoms.
So why not in atoms? Although atoms in brains
must be very different to atoms in rocks.Yet also
related.

David M


> Hi again
>
>> [Magnus]
>>> If we say "B values the POST-condition which results from A", then
>>> the quality event...has to be performed before B can value the result or 
>>> not.
>
> Craig
>  > This is helpful, pointing out that the result must be valued BEFORE it 
> will
>> occur.  But still it is the POST-condition (= the effect = the iron 
>> filings moving
>> toward the magnet) that is valued, not the PRE-condition (= the iron 
>> filings
>> lying inert).
>> So we have: 'A causes B' is to say 'B is the effect of A' is to say 'B is 
>> the valued
>> POST-condition which results from A (so it occurs)'.
>
> One more thing, if we take a similar event in a higher level, such as the 
> biological, we can get something like:
>
> A cell values the taste of a protein, and eats it.
>
> I think we should view these different types of events in a very analog 
> manner. When a cell values the taste of a protein, we see the eating part 
> as a separate event, which is a semi-direct consequence of the first 
> evaluation event.
>
> On the other hand, we don't really see the "so it occurs"-part of an 
> inorganic event as a separate event, but perhaps we should? The iron 
> filings value movement toward the magnet, therefore it moves towards it.
>
> Another thing, since the quality event is supposed to be at the absolute 
> core of our reality, it itself is the source of causality and even time, 
> so I'm not even sure it is possible/desirable to involve words like 
> "cause" and "result" when talking about the quality event since they 
> presume some kind of linear time.
>
> Magnus
>
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