[MD] Chance

[David M]

Hi Craig

Good points/questions.

David M

> [Krimmel]
>> When we seek after the web that produced a particular result,
>> it is a post hoc analysis.
>
> Yes, but we sometimes set up initial conditions & perform an
> experiment to find the result.
>
> [Krimmel]
>> The notion that the dice chooses to land in a particular way is absurd.
>> Every time a six is rolled at different nest of causality is invoked.
>
> Of course, the notion that the dice chooses to land in a particular way
> is absurd. But nobody claims that. We would only say that "the dice
> chooses to land in a particular way" if the dice AS A WHOLE so chooses.
> But it is not so absurd to say of any of the minutest parts of a die (call
> it X), that it chooses a particular path. That the dice lands in a 
> particular
> way is the interaction of all the various paths of Xs.
> Consider:
> X chooses to go there
> X prefers to go there
> X values going there
> X is caused to go there
> X goes there because a nest of causality is invoked.
> For Pirsig, all these record the same data.  They differ only in their
> explanatory power.  Is "X goes there because a nest of causality is 
> invoked"
> any better an explanation than "X values going there"?
> After all, what invokes the "nest of causality"?  How does it do it?
> And why?
> Craig
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