[MD] Meme and totem?

ian glendinning psybertron at gmail.com
Tue May 27 07:50:33 PDT 2008


Agreed SA ... like most things that are any good they are not really
new in any sense, just that someone coined a new word in a new
context. Plus ca change - twas ever thus.

I think gene still holds the "cultural" aspect - that's the point -
but as you say it is an attempt to make it "seem" more scientific,
more "atomic". It's only "stripped-down" (reductionist) if you want it
to be, and clearly we don't.

Ian

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Heather Perella
<spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ian:
> D'ya wanna gimme some clues about "totem" from
> your perspective ... or
> should I just go off and do some research ? Yes
> I do know the "word"
> and I have a dictionary and know how to use
> wikipedia and Google  ...
>
>
> SA:  You see Ian, after the research I did with what I
> know, it seems "meme" is a stripped down taken concept
> from totem where gene (the obvious one) was used to
> make it more "biological", mechanistic, and scientific
> sounding.  Totem holds the cultural influence where
> gene steps in to strip totem down into a mechanistic,
> impersonal view of what totem is.  So the concept
> still remains, "meme" is nothing new and surprising,
> it's totem changed into the SOM, mechanistic version.
> That's what it seems to me, unless you know something
> about "meme" that I don't.
>
>
> woods,
> canoe's on the roof,
> all ready to go,
> SA
>
>
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