[MD] Democracy

[MarshaV]

At 03:15 AM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
>Marsha
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>On 1 Nov. you wrote:
>
>Bo before
> > >Show me one pattern you deem
> > >intellectual that's not a S/O derivative.
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> >   E = mc²
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>It falls in the same class as all/any scientific "theorem": A
>demonstration that so and so relationship is OBJECTIVE. That it
>always works regardless of human SUBJECTIVE interference. That
>nature is a rigid dead mechanistic something . No rituals can alter its
>workings. This in contrast to the SOCIAL magical malleable reality
>where the wasn't any "nature" in contrast to "culture".

It is pretty, isn't it?  I knew I was getting 
myself into trouble by not using 2 + 2 = 4.   But 
E = mc² is gorgeous, as was Einstein.

By what rules do YOU determine what is an 
Intellectual spov?  Quantum mechanics is 
relational.  The E = mc² expresses special 
relativity.  You seem to want to apply a rigid 
attribute/criterion to Int. spovs that should not 
be there.  I know of no such prohibition within 
the MOQ that would exclude relativity, and I 
don't understand relativity to be objective.

Is E = mc² the pattern?  Or is there a whole lot 
of ideas associated with it and part of the pattern?



>Einstein did of course not face the said social-magical reality, it was
>overcome long ago, nor had anyone up to his time known or seen
>matter being transformed into energy, thus the E=mc2 (How did you
>manage to put the small "power" number in place?) is in a class of
>itself. More on this later if you want.

Yes, of course I want.  I do not understand your 
explanation.  I know you understand it, but I do not.

Everything-is-connected-to-everything.  How would 
you categorized that statement?  Do you think it 
falls short of being an Int. spov?  Please 
explain.  And please give us your rules for what 
can legitimately fall into the Intellectual 
Level?  You seem to use some kind of criterion.



Marsha



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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in 
which each is a reflection of all the others in a 
fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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