[MD] patterns revisited

[MarshaV]

At 02:49 PM 11/6/2008, you wrote:
>I still find patterns to not be about subjects
>conceptualizing, but also objects and their patterns, too.
>Thus, not subjects nor objects, but value.  Not this
>mental understanding, but an understanding of value is
>where I'm coming from, but mentally trying to understand
>is another way if you so desire.
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>woods

Greetings Woods,

There are no subjects and no objects.  There is only value, and I'm 
interested in investigating the patterned value.  So, yes.

I cannot help the way I am constructed.  I am mentally curious.  I 
like to think about things.   I also know, as Ron said, reality is 
beyond definition.  But I can't help it.  Should I be doing something else?

Painting is another way to understand value.  Meditation is 
another.  Maybe I should learn to make and bake bread?   Are you hungry?


Marsha








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>From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
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>Subject: Re: [MD] patterns revisited
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>At 01:54 PM 11/6/2008, you wrote:
> >[Marsha]
> > > I might find a better way to
> > > demonstrate the idea that patterns are conceptual.
> >
> >Why not say all patterns are conceptualizable.
> >This establishs a necessary relationship between
> >patterns & concepts, without making them identical.
> >Craig
> >
> > >From an advertisement in "Scientific American" (Nov. 2008):
> >"'The Lightness of Being:  Mass, Ether, And the Unification
> >of Forces' by Frank Wilczek
> >Frank Wilczek, winner of the 2004 Nobel Prize in Physics,
> >unwraps exciting new ideas, among them...that space is
> >DYNAMIC...it opens new possibilities for making
> >connections among PATTERNS that previously seemed unrelated.
> >If our fundamental equations describe partial patterns that we
> >can make more symmetric,...we're tempted to think that
> >maybe they really are just facets of the larger, unified
> >structure."
>
>Greetings,
>
>I cannot accept that patterns are just conceptualizable.  Take away
>conceptions and there is sight, hearing, smell, taste, or
>touch.  None of it making any "sense".  You see only shapes of
>color.  Even depth is conceptualized.  Depth is the patterned
>relationship between patterns.  New possibilities of connected
>patterns should be obvious because experience is the intersection of
>relationship.
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>Marsha
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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a 
reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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