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X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Fri Nov 7 06:33:31 PST 2008


Hello Bo,
I had said:

> MoQ is a thought, a theory about reality, is it not? 

Bo states:

Whoa! Here is the crux. The MOQ rejects the subject/object distinction 
- of which "thought/reality" is a sub-set - and introduces the 
Dynamic/Static (Quality) distinction as existences fundament. Ergo 
there are no thoughts as different from reality in the MOQ. All S/Os are 
relegated to its 4th. leve ... IMO  

> therefore it is a static conception. 

No, the DQ/SQ distinction is the MOQ itself and cant fit into one of its 
own lesser parts (the container logic) 

Ron:
The Self referential logical statements you are referring to apply to a allopoietic systems of thought or
SOM. MoQ is based on An autopoietic system. "a self-referential situation is the one of autopoiesis, 
as the logical organization produces itself the structure which creates itself..
In classical SOM metaphysics, self-reference is subjectivity, while "hetero-reference", as it is called  is objectivity."-wiki
 
Consequently Bo, when one rationalizes with classical intellect, SOM, one will run into this paradox and
the need for meta-levels. From the persective of SOM, MoQ IS a logical meta-level as far as the classical
formation of logical systems goes. Alas, MoQ is no classical logical system and as seen from the MoQ 
perspective, SOM and MoQ are one of many menus in an autopoietic logical system.
As Pirsig stated, it takes MoQ off the logical chess board by challenging the very chess board,
pieces and rules, the very fabric of the game.
 
Thus those who speak in this sort of logical expression are interpreted by classical logic as paradoxal
for this method uses self refferential statements. 
 
 





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