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[Andre Broersen]

Hi Joe, glad you join this very interesting discussion.

I am not very clear on what you are proposing:

You say:

I propose a change of analogies for MOQ.  Instead of DQ/SQ at the
intellectual level I propose Conscious/Mechanical as the analogy.
There is a mechanical intellectual level O.  There is a conscious
intellectual level S.

Andre:

This sounds like dividing things up again, as SOM would have us do. I feel
uneasy about the term 'mechanical' do you mean the conventional S/O mode of
reasoning? I think Pirsig , in his Brussel's SODV (?) paper suggested the
pitfalls of such a mechanistic way of thinking. This term implies , for me,
a removal of the Soc/Int. level. That is, a removal of the observer from
that which is observed.

Could you please explain further. (in simple terms, as I am)

Andre