[MD] The Menu/Reality issue

X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Thu Nov 13 07:59:23 PST 2008


Ron:
I was waiting for this comment, NO. Remember the illusion conversations? We are recognizing an
ultimate reality, we just realize that what we know of it is a static conceptualization of infinitly
running stimuli or qualia.
This doesent mean we should abandon sceince, this simply means that we must take great care in fashioning
our analogies and checking our predictions against existing explainations and observable phenomena.

The signal of truth or trueness is the recognition of patterns of harmony which is partly what we mean by a scientific
 explaination.





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From: Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:24:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Menu/Reality issue

[Ham]
Despite the confusion, it's apparent that at least three of us understand 
that the "patterning" of Value is conceptual, which is to say that objective

phenomena are the intellectual constructs of value perception.

> [Marsha]
> I cannot think of SPoVs as anything but conceptual.
> SPoVs are known (conceptual [value]), phenomenon is
> direct experience (value) until a recognized pattern.

> [Ron]
> Thats the way I see it too Marsha. SPoV are conceptual
> understandings about dynamic quality.

[Krimel]
So for the three of you life, the universe and everything can be reduced to
mental events? Isn't that just a form of radical subjectism; even solipsism?

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