[MD] Evolution's new wrinkle:

Arlo Bensinger ajb102 at psu.edu
Fri Nov 14 12:46:11 PST 2008


[Platt]
Oops. Arlo tries for a comeback and typically begins with mean-spirited smear.

[Arlo]
Arlo's "mean-spiritedness" is born out of frustration. And Arlo has 
little empathy for the schoolyard bully who cries "boohoo". Maybe if 
you'd man-up to your Qualigod rather than interjecting idiotically 
glib comments like "oops" you'd get a more tempered response. In the 
meantime, we all notice, you avoid answering the questions yet again. 
I'll repost them. See if you can find a pair and actually answer any 
of them, rather than yet another attempt to use talk-radio rhetoric 
to fluff your way out. C'mon, see if your next post will actually 
contain one answer, or are you too much a coward to step up and 
profess The Great Qualigod?

If you deride "just getting lucky", then I presume that in your view, 
with "luck" having no part of it, you were "planned to be here"?

If so, who did the planning? Did the subatomic particles get together 
and say "let's organize into a Universe and create Platt"? Did the 
first biological cells collectively go "hmm, what if we all joined 
together and made this thing called a human body?"That is, is the 
"planning" of your teleology carried out by the lower-level patterns?

Is this a "one-off" teleology (biological cells deliberated and 
planned to produce social pattern)? Or is it removed the level where 
subatomic quarks "planned" to make Platt?

Or is the level of "planning" carried out "outside" the system by 
some external architect? Long before there was anything but Quality, 
before the simplest of the simplest inorganic patterns were formed, 
there sat Quality coming up with a Master Plan to create and set into 
motion the Universe with the sole intent of creating "man"? (Was 
Qualigod's intent "personal" (did he plan to make YOU specifically) 
or impersonal (his plan stopped at creating the species, but once 
there he he no control).

In your derision of "oop", the alternative you allude to is The Great 
"Poof!" of Qualigod (Abracadabra!). And yet you lack the balls to 
even argue this outright, preferring instead to dole out only 
distortive and distractive rhetoric. But let's get back to these 
questions... see if you can answer them now.

1. In the historic timeline, what changed between the time when 
primates had consciousness and the time when they did?

2. If consciousness have evolved over time, from early primates to 
modern man, HOW does that evolution occur?

3. You deride others with your glib "oops", what do you offer other 
than "Abracadabra! Poof!"?

4. If you disagree with "unintended consequences", does that you mean 
offer "intended planning"? So which is it, did the atoms "plan" to 
make human bodies? Or were they simply made to do so by an external 
Qualigod enacting his "plan"? If neither of these two, then which?





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