[MD] Evolution's new wrinkle:

[Platt Holden]

> > [Krimel]
> > Except that the creative power of chance has been so clearly
> > demonstrated,
> > in such a variety of situations that only a pin head could miss it. 
> 
> [Platt]
> Demonstrated? How? 
> 
> [Krimel]
> Sunspots, lightening, crystals, sand dunes, dust devils, hurricanes, the
> jet
> stream, the Gulf stream, stars, spontaneous magnetism, the
> Belousov-Zhabotinsky reaction, snowflakes, clouds, rivers, the spot on
> Jupiter, the rings of Saturn, galaxies, magnetic fields, Bénard cells
> and
> all of biology.

That's not demonstration. That's just a recitation of "what is" according 
to
SOM. What experiment predicts a repeatable measurable result of
chance? 

> [Platt]
> Is chance that your conception of God?
> 
> [Krimel] 
> No, chance is my conception of chance. Any conception of a creator god
> acts
> in ways that are indistinguishable from chance.

Wrong. A creator god can be conceived as acting with purpose as 
distinguished from playing dice.