[MD] Trance state

[MarshaV]

At 09:15 AM 11/15/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Andre,
>
>[Andre]
> > Apologies dear members of Discuss:
> >
> > After just having sent my reaction to Platt concerning praise for Bodvar,
> > I
> > realise that I have omitted to mention the most important thing of all:
> > be
> > aware that the MoQ places us also in a 'state of trance". In other words
> > the
> > MoQ is also a 'trance state'.
> >
> > 'The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
> > The name that can be named [it] is not the eternal name.
> > The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth.
> > The named is the mother of ten thousand things.'
> >
> > I may be going off on my rockers now but suggest an interpretation of
> > this:
> > The first line refers to Quality... this fits (Undefinable).
> > Second line refers to DQ/SQ?
> > The third line refers to SQ?
> > The fourth line refers to DQ?
> >
> > This leads me to think that the MoQ is also a trance state. It is a
> > reflection/interpretation of Quality but not Quality itself.
>
>Good point. The MOQ as a rigid interpretation of experience, like any other
>single-minded conceptual framework, would qualify as a trance state. But
>here's the thing about the MOQ. It says that reality is prior to conception
>and is therefore immediate, intuitive, undeliberate and involuntary. To me
>the word "trance" assumes a conceptual framework of some sort that filters
>direct experience. So in that way I would distinguish the MOQ from being a
>trance state, just as I would distinguish the mystic understanding of
>reality (ineffable) from the conventional one (symbolic)
>
>What do you think?
>

Platt,

I agree with you, but what would the Science Inquisitor say?

Marsha




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