[MD] Evolution's new wrinkle:

[Ian Glendinning]

Krim, you said ... (gav mentioned)

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Krimel <Krimel at krimel.com> wrote:
> Ian,
> The only argument you and I have is over giving Pirsig a pass or not.

I still don't see the argument I have with you. Like, I'm not giving
Pirsig a pass in late-20th / early-21st Century neo-Darwinian
explanations of evolution. I don't think he's claiming a pass there.
His subject was rhetorical metaphysics ... he scored an A-Plus pass
there.

Platt chooses to be pig-ignorant of intellectual argument. I've moved on.

Gav has that common repulsion to the "greedy reductionist" ooops take
on random aspects of evolution, as he should, but in fact I believe he
has a good intuitive grasp of the reality of emergence and what
teleology actually is.

All I am saying is that the neo-Darwinian and Pirsigian explanations
of the emergence of layers converge on the same result. Two sides of
the same coin.

Ian