[MD] Trance state

[MarshaV]

At 08:44 AM 11/16/2008, you wrote:
>Marsha, no we cant touch them as you mean. But we understand them well
>enough to be able to build new technology with them - like the monitor and
>keyboard you touch now.

KO,

Are you saying that electrons, protons, neutrons, and their sub 
particles exist because they have produced monitors and keyboards?

Marsha






>2008/11/16 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>
> >
> > KO,
> >
> > Can you see, hear, smell, taste or touch things like electrons, protons and
> > neutrons, and their sub particles without the use of super-duper imaging
> > machines?
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:56 AM 11/16/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Marsha,
> >>
> >> the way i see it thinking about quantum physics takes place in the
> >> intellectual part of being; even so, there are social and even physical
> >> aspects to that process of thinking.
> >>
> >> I am aware of only one representation of particle theoretical physics in a
> >> virtual world - Wizard Ginoids reconstruction of the E8 polytope -
> >> probably
> >> various universities are modelling the quantum world virtually also, but i
> >> am not aware of them.
> >>
> >> 2008/11/16 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > KO
> >> >
> >> > I've been thinking about this as an example.  I've admired leaders and
> >> > systems of thought that recommend they not be taken as true, but should
> >> be
> >> > experienced and evaluated accordingly.  Then we have Science that has
> >> > Quantum physics as its highest theory.  But we're told that if we think
> >> we
> >> > understand it, we should think again.  Doesn't particle theoretical
> >> physics
> >> > inhabit a virtual world?
> >> >
> >> > Marsha
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 07:19 AM 11/16/2008, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Andre, we see an example of this with the new virtual worlds.
> >> >> They have an addictive quality because of the freedom of expression
> >> they
> >> >> offer but there are downsides in that the needs of the physical body
> >> tend
> >> >> to
> >> >> be ignored; so strong is the stimulus to the social and intellectual
> >> >> aspects
> >> >> of our being.
> >> >>
> >> >> -KO
> >> >>
> >> >> 2008/11/16 Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Marsha:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >And my other twist to Roger Waters'  'Give any species too much rope
> >> >> and
> >> >> > >they'll  fuck it up' is substitute the word 'species' for level.
> >> >> > I'm not sure what you mean???
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Andre:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I only mean that when the social or intellectual level is left by
> >> >> itself,
> >> >> > unchecked by other levels, (i.e. 'forgetting it's parent level) it
> >> has a
> >> >> > tendency to go off on its own. This can lead to disaster. Pirsig
> >> cites
> >> >> > numerous examples of this in both ZMM and Lila.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a
> >> > reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony
> >> without
> >> > end.
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> >
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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a 
reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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