[MD] The New Physics and Cosmology Dialogues

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Sat Nov 22 01:57:45 PST 2008


GREAT BOOK!!!   This book is expensive, but IMHO worth every cent.


'The New Physics and Cosmology Dialogues with the Dalai Lama' edited 
by Arthur Zajonc.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195159942

ARTHUR AZJONC:  What Your Holiness has said connects to my theme of 
experience versus the theory of modern science.  This question arose 
very early in the development of science in the West:  When I see 
white or red, is it because there is something that could be called 
whiteness or redness, or is this purely an illusion?  Almost all of 
the scientists and philosophers in the since Galileo have decided 
that such things as color are not real, and called them secondary 
qualities, in contrast with primary qualities, which are real 
components of the universe.  Science has assumed it should focus on 
the science of primary qualities, which usually includes such 
attributes as mass, size, and speed of motion.  But whiteness, 
blueness, heaviness--all the qualities, the qualia, the experiences 
are only secondary and derivative.
      I would like to ask, though I cannot immediately answer, 
whether it is possible to have a science of qualities, of 
experiences, as opposed to a science of only qualities of mass, 
motion, and size.  Is it possible to have a science where whiteness 
and blueness still have a reality and are not only derivative?  This, 
for me, is an important question, though I would like to hold it until the end.
      (Zajanc, Arthur, P.134)









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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a 
reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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