[MD] The New Physics and Cosmology Dialogues

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Mon Nov 24 00:51:13 PST 2008


At 06:40 AM 11/23/2008, you wrote:

>'The New Physics and Cosmology Dialogues with the Dalai Lama' edited 
>by Arthur Zajonc.


"ANTON ZEILINGER:  The problem is related to the question Your 
Holiness raised yesterday:  How can we validate cognition without any 
truly existent object?  I don't accept Arthur's position, although I 
admit it is unquestionably possible.  I don't accept it because, if I 
apply quantum analysis and the superposition principle to everything, 
then everything dissolves and loses its well-defined properties.  I 
must be careful about how I speak and what questions I ask.  So to 
make sense of what I am doing, I choose not to apply my quantum 
analysis to the pieces of the apparatus.  I simply posit them as 
existing, with well-defined properties.  I restrict myself, in the 
Copenhagen interpretation, to making the statements about properties 
of the quantum objects independent of the apparatus.  I have accepted 
the apparatus beforehand as existing and as well defined."
      (P. 152)


And I shouldn't be able to recognize that this is playing with a 
marked deck?   Geez.





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