[MD] Trance state

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Ron

26 Nov.you cited Platt's:

> Like I said, unless the intellectual level is SOM, the trance state
> of    today's "intellectuals," Pirsig's analysis of our cultural
> problems collapses. Then the MOQ would be a philosophic non-starter.

and said: 

> As per our western society is concerned yes it is, in fact our
> intellectual level is dominated by it. But let us not make the mistake
> of calling SOM the universal intellectual level. 

If the 4th. level is "dominated by SOM" it means that intellect 
(supposed to be static) must be a valueless neutral "container" 
wherein all sorts of thought patterns (supposed to be dynamic) even 
contradicting ones like the MOQ and SOM . This makes the 4th. level 
"mind" and in a metaphysics that rejects the mind/matter template it's 
destructive.  

> Certainly it leaves out many other ways of making distinctions and
> reasoning from them. All sorts of dualisms, not only SOM collect here.
> This would cement MoQ as only applicable to our culture, I ask, why
> limit it's uses? It's portability is it's beauty. It is Dynamic. 

Give me some examples of patterns you deem "intellectual" yet, isn't 
S/O-based.   

Bo