[MD] Shouldn't we be, like, revolting ?

Arlo Bensinger ajb102 at psu.edu
Wed Oct 1 13:51:15 PDT 2008


[Platt]
Pirsig has advice for those "against society"

[Arlo]
So your contention is that when Pirsig wrote, "The Hippie revolution 
of the eighties was a moral revolution against both society and 
intellectuality", that he mispoke? Or that you think his 
self-contradiction supports a conservative read of Pirsig as reifying 
social patterns? When Pirsig wrote, "The (moral) Hippie rejection of 
social and intellectual patterns left just two directions to go: 
toward biological quality and toward Dynamic Quality.", do you think 
he now would advocate a third direction, an embracing of social 
values and an assault only on intellectual values?

Yes, Platt, I get (as I think everyone here does) that your 
sympathies and motives lie in pushing the readoption of Victorianism 
("Everybody thinks those Victorian moral codes are stupid and evil, 
or old-fashioned at least, maybe a few religious fundamentalists and 
ultra-rightwingers and ignorant uneducated people like that" (LILA)). 
No, no one should reject anything outright without consideration of 
"what they were trying to accomplish" (does this include Marxism for 
you as well, Platt, or only Victorians?) But its clear to me that 
Pirsig's finger points not backwards to the Victorians but towards 
something the Hippies saw but failed to attain. Our challenge will be 
if a new generation of Hippies can see that, and can succeed in reaching it.





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