[MD] Shouldn't we be, like, revolting ?

[Platt Holden]

> [Platt]
> Pirsig makes clear the Hippies went against society:
> 
> [Arlo]
> And he makes it clear it was a moral movement in doing so.

A moral movement that failed because:

"Anarchy became the most popular politics and squalor and poverty and chaos 
became the most popular life-styles. Degeneracy was practiced for 
degeneracy's sake." (Lila, 24)

> [Platt]
> The most important Victorian value we ought to "dust off" is the free 
> market,
> a value Marxism rejects outright.  
> 
> [Arlo]
> You mean go back to the 1890s? Yes, by all means try to sell that one! But
> what
> other Victorian moral codes should we dust off? And, which do you feel
> we
> should abandon?
> 
> So you think that its only "Victorianism" that we should "dust off" and
> examine
> to "see what they were trying to accomplish"? Small wonder why the path
> you
> promote is the retrogressive one Pirsig describes.

You mean dust off Hippie values and return to degeneracy for degeneracy's 
sake?  The free market is retrogressive? 

> 
> [Platt]
> "Indian values are all right for an Indian style of life, but they don't
> work
> so well in a complex technological society." (Lila, 22)
> 
> [Arlo]
> Especially one dominated by a "paralyzing (S/O) intellectual system".
> Maybe if
> we could overcome that system, we could re-examine what Indian values
> should be
> considered as well, a central point to LILA.

Agree. S/O has gotta go.