[MD] Shouldn?t we be, like, revolting ?

Christoffer Ivarsson IvarssonChristoffer at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 2 11:24:24 PDT 2008




Hello Bodvar. Magnus mentioned.

If I understand you correctly you state that socialism undermines the social 
level, my natural question thus becomes: how so? Seeing as you live in a 
socialist country more like my own than not perhaps you can give me some 
meaningful insight here.

But in a general sense I also wish to have your input on this my assertion: 
I understand completely that the social level is about liberation from the 
biological level, or in any case, about redirecting biological recourses 
into following Quality that is not biologically derived and interpreted. The 
reason why I see it as the most natural thing in the world for a MOQist to 
sympathise with the general ideas and themes of Marxism is because it can be 
categorized as a recipe for rearranging social patterns to serve the 
intellectual level: something that is evolutionary moral in the MOQ view.

What is your input on this?

And furthermore - when I (and Magnus some time ago) identify the free market 
as a social level pattern (at the core), do you not agree on this?

And if you make this analysis - that the free market is a social level 
pattern - do you feel that it is a big leap for me to say that it is easily 
identifiable that social level values, such as the hunger for profit and the 
whole capitalist system, is indeed oppressing and controlling intellectual 
patterns when only the knowledge that is profitable (I.e. has social value) 
has a reasonable chance to develop and grow?

I would greatly Value your input on this.

Kindly

Christoffer

> I like it when you take the dear Swedish socialists down a little by such
> information that the "Fannie Mae" financial institution was founded as
> a countermeasure for the economical crisis of the thirties. My opinion
> is that using the MOQ for classifying this "little" item as "intellectual"
> and that as "social" is in wain, however the big intellect vs society
> struggle that the above quotes concern is most valid.
>
> This struggle goes on and the irony is that the socialists are the ones
> that undermine SOCIAL VALUE, this stems from the MOQ not being
> known in general and that some alleged moqists not having grasped
> what its 3rd. level is about, namely a liberation from the biological
> level. Magnus the star example of a misconceived social level.

 




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