[MD] Commie Talk and USA bashing?

[Platt Holden]

> Platt:
> Do you think Pirsig understood "real socialism" when he wrote about it in
> Lila?

> woods:
> 
>     I see your point, but do you see Pirsig's point?  I thought socialism
> according to 
> what Pirsig wrote was an intellectual pattern and capitalism is a social
> patten.  

I think this was Pirsig's point:

"From a static point of view socialism is more moral than capitalism. It's 
a higher form of evolution. It is an intellectually guided society, not 
just a society that is guided by mindless traditions. That's what gives 
socialism its drive. But what the socialists left out and what has all but 
killed their whole undertaking is an absence of a concept of indefinite 
Dynamic Quality." (Lila, 17)

I would quibble with Pirsig about capitalism not being intellectually 
guided society because wealth is a product of man's capacity to think. 
Nevertheless, he's right about apologists for the free market having no 
concept of Dynamic Quality. But who does? Certainly not Marxists.  

Platt