[MD] Commie Talk and USA bashing?

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

> woods:
>    If that's all Marxism is, then it sounds good.  But I think there is something else 
> to Marxism.  Something more than an what you injected as "...a balanced MOQ society...".  
> We know Marx wouldn't have said that.  He didn't know the moq.  So, are you overlaying and 
> changing Marxism into an idea that you like, maybe not so much a Marxism that Karl Marx 
> discussed?

Chris:



Marx did not know of the MOQ and thus his philosophical view
is flawed by S/O thinking. But I look at the basics and interpret them from a
MOQ perspective. Also, the Manifesto is a very small text that _had_ only a
political purpouse at the specific time – to get the revolution going. However that
failed and germany was overrun by fascist forces instead. What´s relevant to us
is not the entire context of the manifesto, perhaps more that lies in Marx
other works, and perhaps in the general ideas interpreted from our perspective.
So yeah. 

I am not a dogmatic, nor was Marx, and neither is Pirsig. We
must be open to new Dynamic input. 





Platt:
> The question is, "Who is to say someone's quest for knowledge will 
> undermine society?" Citizens by vote? Citizens' representatives? A ruling 
> group of elites? A beneficent dictator?    

Chris:

A intellectualy guided society would democratically make the nessecary laws to ensure the stability of the social level.

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