[MD] Metaphysical issues: DQ

Christoffer Ivarsson IvarssonChristoffer at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 8 23:34:59 PDT 2008




Platt asked:

> Does your understanding of DQ agree with the following?
>
> "By contrast the Metaphysics of Quality, also going back to square one,
> says that man is composed of static levels of patterns of evolution with a
> capability of response to Dynamic Quality." (Lila, 24)

Yes, it does, as you can see below. Perhaps it is how I define the word 
"response" that differ. Perhaps it doesn't differ. We are static patterns, 
manifestations of Q. we are Q, and we can, occasionally see new Q, bring new 
Q into existence. When we paint or do physics we are trying to understand 
more about Q - DQ. Just like mutations in a plant. Try it, sense the Q. Good 
or Bad, at least now we know.

(sorry, just woke up)

>> Since people keep talking about things as being more or less Dynamic,
>> using
>> the term differently and, most notably,  saying that some things that us
>> humans may create can be more or less dynamic I feel I need to state my
>> position on the matter of DQ:
>>
>> - I believe that Dynamic Quality should be handled only as that part of
>> reality that isn't stable patterns.
>> - Stable patterns is the only thing we can talk about in any meaningful
>> manner, since we are stable patterns.
>> - That other part of reality should not be given ascribed anything, not
>> motion, not intent, nothing.
>> - However we should say that since everything is Quality, Quality is
>> everywhere, both the stable patterns we see and DQ.
>> - If we then are to speak about some change, or some "Quality Event" in
>> connection to DQ we should say that a new aspect of Quality came to us 
>> and
>> that it was incorporated into our "pattern understanding".
>> - And by "came to us" we must not mean that DQ _did_ anything, because we
>> cannot say that, that's a SPOV understanding - instead we must say that 
>> WE
>> did something that made us see another aspect of Quality; the Quality 
>> that
>> is reality.
>> - Thus it follows that no thing, no system, nothing that we can talk 
>> about
>> or even clearly visualise can be, or have, DQ.
>>
>>
>> So, SPOVs move around and change in accordance with the cause and effect
>> rules that exist, and thus "random" changes occur - for instance a
>> mutation
>> in a plant: what happens then is that a new aspect of Quality is
>> manifested
>> (is that the right word?) in a stable pattern. DQ became SQ. It may or 
>> may
>> not have high Static Quality, but nonetheless, what happened was that a
>> new
>> aspect of the infinite Q was manifested.
>>
>>  Anyway - So what humans do is all static. When we invent new things we
>> get
>> mote Q-understanding, and perhaps everything is supposed to move towards
>> the
>> ultimate Q understanding that may or may not be becoming DQ.
>>
>>
>> That's my take on it, now pick it apart you! =)
>>
>> Regards
>> Chris
 




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