[MD] Commie Talk and USA bashing?

Andre Broersen andrebroersen at gmail.com
Thu Oct 9 00:47:19 PDT 2008


Bodvar says:

In my opinion"economics" as a rational (objective) study and/or system
is intellect, thus both communism's and capitalism's (as economical
systems, they have a political aspect too) are intellect, while the
original exchange of goods (be it barter or using money) is a social
pattern having come under intellectual control.

Andre says

> However it appears to me that given this guideline both capitalism and
> socialism belong to the *social level*...and so do governments/ the
> political sector with their interventions (when needed), G8 Summits,
> economic Think tanks, International and National Trade negotiations/
> agreements. etc etc. to ensure some sort of  laissez "fairness"  the
> whole operation i.e this is not intellectualising at the abstract
> level.

Your response:

"I could not agree more, this definition of intellect is clearly not correct
MOQ-wisely. Manipulation of symbols is what language is about (plus
mathematics, logic ..etc) Nor I understand what "no corresponding
particular experience" means, but Pirsig could not bring himself to
agree fully with the SOL interpretation (intellect=the subject/object
distinction) in this case: symbols/what they symbolize".

This places language fairly and squarely at the social and intellectual
level.

Bodvar ( and anyone interested of course) do you want to persue this
further? I think it is very important as I have a hunch that something is
not quite right in all this. I do want to get a grasp on this Int PoV but
demands of work prevent me from devoting the time it deserves at the moment.

Also can we change it into another thread? Simply: the intellectual level?

Regards Andre



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