[MD] Commie Talk and USA bashing?

[Woods Woods]

Arlo:
Marx believed that man's oppression was caused by social structures, 
rather than seeing that those social structures are themselves there 
because of "present construction of systematic thought", and this is 
why Marxist revolutions failed (IMO) and left in the place of the 
structures they overthrew militant and aggressive dictatorships. They 
attacked the structures of society but not the underlying cause, the 
metaphysical systems that create alienating and oppressive structures.



woods:

    You nailed it!  That's what I think Platt, Chris, and I are converging upon 
using real events as examples.  This economic crisis is loud enough that 
many people can see the problems first-hand and can see the problems 
much more easily now.  We know this problem has been here for some time, 
but it was subtle to most people.  Most people knew and know something 
is not right, but what?  What can we point out is the problem?  As you said, 
Arlo recently, we need to point out what we are fighting or struggling against.  
I think with this loud economic crisis it's easier to talk to other people about 
what the problem is, because we all have the same real-time events to 
point out and show in real-time how these problems are playing out.  A crisis 
has a tendency to show so clearly what the problem is.  Unfortunately, it takes 
a crisis to sometimes get people off the hot stove.  
    Also, as we've been pointing out, U.S. capitalism has it's faults too.  It's 
the intellectual system, and I would have to against the grain in what Chris said 
about dynamic quality and how we don't have to bring it up, but it's important 
to bring it up to remember that dq is present, is here.  SOM's non-recognition of Dq 
is a major part of why SOM doesn't work, too.
    But I have a feeling Chris would agree with this.


woods