[MD] Report on Gold

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Gav

On 9 Oct. you wrote:

> hi there,
> the 9/11 thing...well who knows what the exact truth. but i agree with
> charlie sheen - the conspiracy theorists are those that reckon an
> untrained group of arab blokes hijacked planes and flew them into the
> buildings.

Your quoting Charlie Sheen was too subtle for me, does it mean that 
the least probable theory is the said one?       

> anyway....it is pretty obvious to anyone with more than 3 brain cells
> that we need to become sustainable, as a species. the global economy
> runs on the illogic of growth for growth's sake which is simply a
> social analogy of cancer....the internal expression of external ills. 
> cancer isn't sustainable - it grows till it kills the host.

Then the trite bashing of global economy. Economy has not been 
sustainable since the hunter/garner era, already the introduction of 
agriculture meant non-sustainability and to speak about such things  at 
the present stage is far out. Even if energy can be renewable and 
metal and the other resources recycled there is always the "entropy" 
factor, and what's a few thousand years in this scenario?

No, there's no turning back, we better expand the economy to a 
universal one. My dream is cultivating the planet Mars to make it 
inhabitable, bringing in raw material from the moon, catching a metal 
asteroid or a comet to "water" Mars... etc. in the best Jules Verne, 
Isaac Asimov and Arthur Clarke style. My nightmare is the present 
pessimistic trend preventing space exploration as too resource 
demanding, making humanity earth-locked and if not succumbing from 
a too narrow "cage" then surely from hemp ;-) 

Bo 








 
> so we need green collar workers!!!! quite simple. the single biggest
> thing will be changing to a plant based economy (sustainable); and  
> single most important plant in this respect is hemp. we can create a
> flourishing hemp industry in very little time.
> 
> so let's be happy that the meltdown has kicked in....i mean come on -
> anyone really dig the way things have been working......?! we are
> finally evolving into an intelligent species....
> 
> yay for us
> yay for the planet
> yay for mangoes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Woods Woods <woodswoods8 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Woods Woods <woodswoods8 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Report on Gold
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Received: Friday, 10 October, 2008, 12:54 PM
> > Rebecca:
> > Check out the movie Zeitgeist for more on all of this
> > 
> > 
> > woods:
> >      I saw the movie.  
> > 
> > Rebecca:
> > The film is VERY convincing in it's demonstration of
> > the controlled
> > demolition that took down the world trade towers... 
> > 
> > woods:
> >      I have a difficult time knowing if this was truly
> > orchestrated 
> > by the U.S.  I'm still inclined to believe that it was
> > Al Queda.  
> > My focus and concern is this tremendous growth in mistrust 
> > for the U.S. gov't.  This I can identify with.  This I
> > do share to 
> > a certain extent with many others.  With this mistrust I
> > find the 
> > blame game will increase in intensity.  We see this in
> > politics.  
> > Each side tries to knock the other side out with
> > demonization.  
> > I will say McCain and Palin are doing this without
> > recognizing 
> > the danger in their rhetoric.  They are truly inspiring
> > hate, as noticed 
> > in the "Kill him", "Get him he's a
> > terrorist", type rhetoric coming from the 
> > crowd in their rallies.  They've struck a deep nerve of
> > hate that comes 
> > from the hearts of some in this U.S. country that needs to
> > believe 
> > they are right and somebody else HAS to be evil.  The
> > republicans, 
> > unfortunately, like to throw the word "evil"
> > around a lot, and this 
> > is very dangerous as now they try to raise the suspicion
> > that Obama 
> > is a terrorist or anti-American.  I will say I don't
> > like Obama cause 
> > he voted for the bailout.  Also, he's losing his heart,
> > and what I mean 
> > here is he's not throwing out inspiration and he's
> > talks are getting 
> > nonauthentic.  He's getting too static and I'm not
> > seeing his emotion 
> > that much.  That only troubles me because in this day and
> > age 
> > presidents and presidential candidates are bombarded by
> > many 
> > advisors, thus, with advice from so many people I wonder if
> > the 
> > presidents and presidential candidates can think for
> > themselves 
> > that much any more.  Clearly though, the McCain and Palin
> > rhetoric 
> > is off-base and quite frankly threatening and scary.
> > 
> > Rebecca:
> > the beginning ties in the central banks and federal
> > reserve; 
> > shows how it's a throwback to the pre-settlement
> > european 
> > system and that the power that be are still there.
> > 
> > woods:
> >      This part I get.  This part I've researched
> > myself, so it may reflect 
> > why I believe this part more than the 9/11 debunk stuff. 
> > With the latter 
> > I don't know how that could possibly be cleared up for
> > sure.  The evidence 
> > is gone.  The new towers are being built.  
> >     Yet, this banking stuff is much easier to track down. 
> > Anybody can google in wikipedia the Federal Reserve or use
> > other sources and clearly notice this is a foreign private
> > organization and as we watch what they do, it is clear they
> > are making policy and by the fact that the U.S. President
> > appoints the Fed. Chairman 
> > is a relationship that clearly shows the power of the Fed.
> > Reserve, yet, 
> > as you track the Fed. Reserve down you notice it is only a
> > Hub of the 
> > BIS (Bank of International Settlements).  Power is
> > definitely involved here.  I've 
> > said much about this in these past two weeks, so, I keep it
> > short here.
> > 
> > 
> > Rebecca gives link:
> > http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > woods:
> >     I hope I didn't scare gav away or you away with my
> > perspective on 
> > 9/11.  I understand this is a scary situation.
> >     We went out today to get more basic foods that can be
> > stored and also 
> > some fuel to store for the upcoming winter.
> > 
> > 
> > woods
> > 
> > 
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