[MD] Re; chinese language patterns

[MarshaV]

Khoo,

...by a neurosurgical stroke so fine
I find myself completely out of my mind..

Marsha

p.s.  I don't know how Bo can not address your post.  Words like 
narrow, shallow and without humility come to my mind.








At 09:29 AM 10/12/2008, you wrote:
>Skutvik :
>Thus the oriental intellectual level was every bit as S/O as the Occidental,
>but the
>Orientals did not lock on to that level to let it develop into a S/O
>metaphysics like the West.
>
>Khoo:
>Wow, Bo this is as superficial as you can get about a culture and a
>civilisation bounded by a metaphysics that you observe as laboratory rats.
>Have you immersed yourself among the lab rats in what oriental philosophy,
>more pointedly Chinese philosophy would be all about before you make
>statements like that; directly rather than vicariously even through Pirsig.
>
>
>Skutvik:
>The social level is their primary focus with a Quality-like insight lodged
>on top of that, manifest as Buddhism and Taoism.
>
>Khoo:
>In a way if thats all how you think of Chinese civilisation being mostly
>social structures it does not surprise me that you would come up with a
>particularly grating point of view as below:
>
>Skutvik:
>This is behind their lack of innovation, of aping western music and
>producing western goods to perfection, but not bringing forth any new
>things.
>
>Khoo:
>I wonder where the world would be without ice cream, spaghetti and
>gunpowder. But that said according to your world view -  lets not hold our
>breath for anything new to come out from China -even as blends of East and
>West and then more.
>
>I may have posted earlier on this before - but all innovative activity in
>China was done and claimed in the name of the Emperor. I was surprised that
>crossbows and chrome were already made in China when China was first unified
>under Qin. Does anyone remember the name of the first Chinese Taikonaut; as
>opposed to Yuri Gagarin and Alan Shepard ?
>
>Chinese society today has to deal with the market capitalism of the West -
>to the extent that greed and lax regulation has allowed melamine to taint
>baby milk products. But the social values of a country that limiits birth to
>one child per family will soon enough correct that - as we expect the
>greater good to prevail over the greed of a few.
>
>
>Skutvik:
>Most of all no philosophical evolution - like the MOQ for instance - and
>typically the MOQ could not have been arrived without the strong
>intellectual level i.e. the SOM.
>Khoo:
>Might it ever be considered that Chinese civilisation for all its 6,000
>years, barbarism and affluence
>all taken into account, is the manifestation of a Metaphysics of Quality ?
>Quality after all precedes SOM; Western civilisation choose to go with SOM
>as the primary dichotomy. Chinese civilisation stayed with the Metaphysics
>of Quality and retained SOM as a derivative branch.
>
>That is why maybe in your scheme of things the Chinese don't have inventions
>in the personalised patents under the names of individualised objects;
>objects who dared identify and name the ten thousand "things' as though they
>discovered "them" and therefore possesed "them"..
>
>Finally I am not inclined to get into a debate where the premises have no
>common ground but I will say that if one accepts that the fundamental
>worldview of the Chinese is alliterative rather than objective; then we may
>start to get to the point.




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